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17 November 2018 09:26

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Asked by: Nitro
Subject: reply to Kristijans post
Question: Answer: kristijan - 15/11/2017 13:19:23
Great topic. Gyroscopic precession has no moment of inertia and this cna be used for more thing than talking. Here is a device that was made by me that uses gyroscopic precession for propulsion. This propulsion theoretically can be used in space...What do you think about it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZP_ZbnGA9I&t=443s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo-qR0lx_io

Please comment.
thnank you
dr. kristijan
dr.todoroski@gmail.com




Hi Kristijan

Your machine has all the elements required for propulsion but suffers from the common problems that I, and I am sure others, have struggled to overcome. This, apart from time, engineering ability, money or an engineering savvy friend, is the age old problem of getting the gyrodynamic forces large enough so they are not swamped by the useless non gyrodynamic mass of the mechanism, frame, power source and motors. Without better gyrodynamics (or lighter mechanics) your device is doomed to be written of by all but the cognoscenti as yet another example of a “slip/ stick” effect.

While Sandy’s reply saying that your machine would only work within a gravitational field may be technically correct the effect of gravity can always, I have found, be replicated by other force producing devices as simple as a spring or even an elastic band. In space it would also, of course, require a mirroring machine to cancel out the torque of a single machine.

As Sandy said in his reply to you; good luck, though don’t go crazy on patents yet as one of mine predates where I think you are going and would constitute prior art. And, as you probably have discovered, the device will only produce movement in discrete packages (impulses). While the fact that it punches a hole in the third law is fantastic and it may enable further improvement as understanding improves, it is pretty useless for propulsion if constant acceleration cannot be achieved.

As your post is buried in amongst old answers that most will not find I shall also copy this to the new questions section so more can see your video link.

Kind regards
NM
Date: 19 November 2017
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Answer: Brian Morris - 12/12/2017 12:06:55
 Hi Kristian

An interesting machine. It is a variation on the constant velocity machines or inchworms , walkers etc that others have posted on the forum. It is based on Prof Laithwaite's patented 'up as a gyro, down as a mass' principle and has the same limitation. It does not accelerate the inert mass, only displaces it.

I interpret Sandy's comment as it will not overcome gravity, it cannot hover. As Nitro says gravity can be emulated by an elastic band. Your model will work in space if you attach a mirror image of it to itself!! You will then have a space paddle or a means of maneuvering around without reaction mass! Discussed elsewhere on the forum.

Your model adds to the growing number of examples that show the current paradigm of Newton dynamics is incomplete, as such it has value. If you do get a University Professor to give a considered opinion, I for one would love to hear it.

Good luck with your endeavours.

Momentus

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