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David Elvin |
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'Laithwaite-style propulsion' |
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Dr. D Fisher states, Laithwaite propulsion was "a delusion born of ignorance" from nothing more than a showman but doesn't begin to expand on why his experiments had no merit. Does he have proof that this was smoke and mirrors and if the idea is wholly flaud how does he explain the ability to lift Laithwaite bicycle wheel weighing fifty pounds with very little effort?
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22 September 2006
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Sandy Kidd - 26/09/2006 07:16:43
| | | David,
Now and again, on this site, we get, for want of a better word, irritants, who feel obliged to get their oar in. Nothing constructive is ever offered by them. Usually obscure books and authors are quoted and offered as disproof along with a whole load of meaningless and useless academic mumbo jumbo.
I get the impression that they are just trying to tell the world just how knowledgeable and smart they think they are.
That said, Laithwaite never managed to produce inertial propulsion himself. He was however, responsible for inspiring many, and partly responsible for the success of some.
The experiment you describe is where many, including myself, started in the search for inertial propulsion, asking the same questions.
The academics normally describe this type of demonstration as a “party trick”, but cannot themselves, explain in depth what is happening.
All I can say is, believe it or not, the choice is yours.
Sandy Kidd
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Hsien-Lu Huang - 26/09/2006 16:55:27
| | | Dear Mr. Sandy Kidd:
For your information attached below is a copy of the ISOS 1728 Investment submitted to NASA and included in the ISOS Database in 2005. Pray that our Lord our God bless the Investment. Thanks for your time to review it.
God bless you, your family, and your invention.
Elder Dr. & Mrs. Hsien-Lu & Hui-Lien Peng Huang
Attachment
ISOS Database
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Viewing Investment Detail Page Welcome Today is Tuesday, September 26, 2006
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Investment ID: 1728 Version: 6 Title: Rocketless Space Propulsion System Research
Investment Overview: Version Control:
Summit Panel: Integration Summit Year: Summit 2005
Element/Program: DELETED View Past Summit Year: Summit 2005
Type: Strategic Initiative Version Number: 6
Alternate ID: View Prev. Version: 654321
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Investment Title: Rocketless Space Propulsion System Research
Objective: To Minimize the Impact on the Space Shuttle's Retirement on the International Space Station (ISS) Program and to provide enough fund on this research to prove the case one way or the other. A failure is still a result, but an unfinished research is not.
Description: NASA should search for Rocketless Propulsion System. Commercial sector & government have spent resources on this subject. Fund hasn't been enough to prove conclusive. Press published a few premature successes which're ruthlessly picked apart by scien-tist
Technical Approach: Restore the NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Project, strengthen the NASA Reduced Gravity Student Opportunities Program, launch a series of technology incentive prizes to help spur innovation and breakthroughs in a range of scien-tific arenas, etc.
New Technologies: Rocketless Propulsion
New Capabilities: Can be used in space, sea, and land, and daily life.
Potential Impacts: See New Capabilities
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Investment Ownership:
Technical POC Name: Huang, Hsien-Lu
Technical POC Phone 281-282-4598
Technical POC Email Hsien.Huang@usa-spaceops.com
Contact Name: Elder Dr. Hsien-Lu Huang Organization: United Space Alliance
Phone: 281-282-4598(O) 281-480-4576(H) Email: Hsien.Huang@usa-spaceops.com
Add/Modify By: jolansen Add/Modify Date: 10/18/2004
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Investment Documents/Links Information:
Curator: David Frost
Responsible NASA Official: Mike Corbin
This page was last updated: August 22, 2004
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Hsien-Lu Huang - 26/09/2006 16:55:37
| | | Dear Mr. Sandy Kidd:
For your information attached below is a copy of the ISOS 1728 Investment submitted to NASA and included in the ISOS Database in 2005. Pray that our Lord our God bless the Investment. Thanks for your time to review it.
God bless you, your family, and your invention.
Elder Dr. & Mrs. Hsien-Lu & Hui-Lien Peng Huang
Attachment
ISOS Database
Home |View Investments |Panels |Reports |Help
Viewing Investment Detail Page Welcome Today is Tuesday, September 26, 2006
The database is now closed for new initiatives and editing.
Files may be sent to the administrators for inclusion with initiative.
Initiatives are being reviewed by the appropriate Program/Element representative.
HIGHLIGHTED text indicates fields changed from previous version. Click on HIGHLIGHTED text to view previous value.
Investment ID: 1728 Version: 6 Title: Rocketless Space Propulsion System Research
Investment Overview: Version Control:
Summit Panel: Integration Summit Year: Summit 2005
Element/Program: DELETED View Past Summit Year: Summit 2005
Type: Strategic Initiative Version Number: 6
Alternate ID: View Prev. Version: 654321
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Investment Title: Rocketless Space Propulsion System Research
Objective: To Minimize the Impact on the Space Shuttle's Retirement on the International Space Station (ISS) Program and to provide enough fund on this research to prove the case one way or the other. A failure is still a result, but an unfinished research is not.
Description: NASA should search for Rocketless Propulsion System. Commercial sector & government have spent resources on this subject. Fund hasn't been enough to prove conclusive. Press published a few premature successes which're ruthlessly picked apart by scien-tist
Technical Approach: Restore the NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Project, strengthen the NASA Reduced Gravity Student Opportunities Program, launch a series of technology incentive prizes to help spur innovation and breakthroughs in a range of scien-tific arenas, etc.
New Technologies: Rocketless Propulsion
New Capabilities: Can be used in space, sea, and land, and daily life.
Potential Impacts: See New Capabilities
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Investment Ownership:
Technical POC Name: Huang, Hsien-Lu
Technical POC Phone 281-282-4598
Technical POC Email Hsien.Huang@usa-spaceops.com
Contact Name: Elder Dr. Hsien-Lu Huang Organization: United Space Alliance
Phone: 281-282-4598(O) 281-480-4576(H) Email: Hsien.Huang@usa-spaceops.com
Add/Modify By: jolansen Add/Modify Date: 10/18/2004
Estimated Project Cost Data:
Baseline Cost:
Cost With Reserves: $
Total Cost: Feasibility Cost: Formulation Cost: Implementation Cost:
FY00 $ $ $ $
FY01 $ $ $ $
FY02 $ $ $ $
FY03 $ $ $ $
FY04 $ $ $ $
FY05 $ $ $ $
FY06 $ $ $ $
FY07 $ $ $ $
FY08 $ $ $ $
FY09 $ $ $ $
FY10 $ $ $ $
FY11 $ $ $ $
FY12 $ $ $ $
Click here to view the investment image
Investment Documents/Links Information:
Curator: David Frost
Responsible NASA Official: Mike Corbin
This page was last updated: August 22, 2004
ISOS Summit 2005 | Shuttle Upgrades Home Page | JSC Home Page | Web Accessibility and Policy Notices
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Hsien-Lu Huang - 26/09/2006 16:55:46
| | | Dear Mr. Sandy Kidd:
For your information attached below is a copy of the ISOS 1728 Investment submitted to NASA and included in the ISOS Database in 2005. Pray that our Lord our God bless the Investment. Thanks for your time to review it.
God bless you, your family, and your invention.
Elder Dr. & Mrs. Hsien-Lu & Hui-Lien Peng Huang
Attachment
ISOS Database
Home |View Investments |Panels |Reports |Help
Viewing Investment Detail Page Welcome Today is Tuesday, September 26, 2006
The database is now closed for new initiatives and editing.
Files may be sent to the administrators for inclusion with initiative.
Initiatives are being reviewed by the appropriate Program/Element representative.
HIGHLIGHTED text indicates fields changed from previous version. Click on HIGHLIGHTED text to view previous value.
Investment ID: 1728 Version: 6 Title: Rocketless Space Propulsion System Research
Investment Overview: Version Control:
Summit Panel: Integration Summit Year: Summit 2005
Element/Program: DELETED View Past Summit Year: Summit 2005
Type: Strategic Initiative Version Number: 6
Alternate ID: View Prev. Version: 654321
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Investment Title: Rocketless Space Propulsion System Research
Objective: To Minimize the Impact on the Space Shuttle's Retirement on the International Space Station (ISS) Program and to provide enough fund on this research to prove the case one way or the other. A failure is still a result, but an unfinished research is not.
Description: NASA should search for Rocketless Propulsion System. Commercial sector & government have spent resources on this subject. Fund hasn't been enough to prove conclusive. Press published a few premature successes which're ruthlessly picked apart by scien-tist
Technical Approach: Restore the NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Project, strengthen the NASA Reduced Gravity Student Opportunities Program, launch a series of technology incentive prizes to help spur innovation and breakthroughs in a range of scien-tific arenas, etc.
New Technologies: Rocketless Propulsion
New Capabilities: Can be used in space, sea, and land, and daily life.
Potential Impacts: See New Capabilities
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Investment Ownership:
Technical POC Name: Huang, Hsien-Lu
Technical POC Phone 281-282-4598
Technical POC Email Hsien.Huang@usa-spaceops.com
Contact Name: Elder Dr. Hsien-Lu Huang Organization: United Space Alliance
Phone: 281-282-4598(O) 281-480-4576(H) Email: Hsien.Huang@usa-spaceops.com
Add/Modify By: jolansen Add/Modify Date: 10/18/2004
Estimated Project Cost Data:
Baseline Cost:
Cost With Reserves: $
Total Cost: Feasibility Cost: Formulation Cost: Implementation Cost:
FY00 $ $ $ $
FY01 $ $ $ $
FY02 $ $ $ $
FY03 $ $ $ $
FY04 $ $ $ $
FY05 $ $ $ $
FY06 $ $ $ $
FY07 $ $ $ $
FY08 $ $ $ $
FY09 $ $ $ $
FY10 $ $ $ $
FY11 $ $ $ $
FY12 $ $ $ $
Click here to view the investment image
Investment Documents/Links Information:
Curator: David Frost
Responsible NASA Official: Mike Corbin
This page was last updated: August 22, 2004
ISOS Summit 2005 | Shuttle Upgrades Home Page | JSC Home Page | Web Accessibility and Policy Notices
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