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Lubomir |
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Otis Carr's flying machine |
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Hello!
Most recently I have come across this info
http://www.projectcamelot.org/ralph_ring.html
and I'm wondering if there is a plan to repeat the flyght
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Best regards,
Lubo |
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11 September 2008
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Glenn Hawkins - 12/09/2008 02:32:55
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| | Dear Lubomir-- Well done!
The site you gave is very long and holding a lot of information. I’m only an hour into it, but already I can say it is fascinating. I find my old understanding that time is not real is verified by Odis Carr in 1952. Other old theories to do with light speed and the probable naturally occurring functions and actions of cosmic ration which may reshape light packets if they were allowed to increase in speed, until they were out of control and thereby collide with other cosmic rations, rather than slingshot around one another at light speed, or slower speeds are all to too complicated to explain without doing a great long artical-- and I’m not more that 90% certain I am correct anyway--so there I’m almost sorry I mentioned it, but as to this site given in the post above you may find it very, very interesting.
Thank you
Regards Glenn,
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Glenn Hawkins - 12/09/2008 03:28:01
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I was hasty. The video is interesting as I indicated, but I find no science at all in this site. Excuse me please.
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Lubomir - 12/09/2008 06:41:41
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| | Here is more information
http://keelynet.com/gravity/carr3.htm
http://www.rexresearch.com/carr/1carr.htm
http://befreetech.com/suppressed_inventions.htm
I think that there is more science in this rather than in rockets of today. And the Utron device is not just gyroscope. It's even more than that, it's Over-Unity!
Lubo
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Lubomir - 12/09/2008 08:26:47
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| | My qestion was - are here people who can recreate the events described by Ralph Ring in the links above in order to prove or disprove what has been written about Carr's machine?
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Glenn Hawkins - 12/09/2008 17:51:32
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| | Dear Lubomir,
First to answer your question. There are no people here, or anywhere else on earth for that mater who can do what Ralph Ring said was done including Ralph Ring himself. If you say there might be, or might have been, I say PROVE IT.
What I meant by that definition when I said there was no science on the site is that there was no proof, but also I can add no sensible schematics, no math, no nothing except a couple of granny fifty five year old photos and a fairy tail told by a delightful old gentleman who lived an enthusiastic life and most likely believes his fairytale. Otherwise these people. These poor MISGUIDED PEOPLE EVERYWHERE! Fifty percent of the world believes in flying saucers. More than five percent believe they’ve been abducted and sodomized by a creatures that travel a billion miles back and forth just to do them whenever they can catch them alone on a deserted road without any gasoline. That’s why our country is in such an awful mess. These poor gullible people are allowed to go to the polls and vote. They are incapable of discerning what is true and obvious and what isn’t, yet the are allow to vote. Oh God. I fear what they'll have running our country next. When these fantastic people I mention have some proof I can put my hands on, or proof that a photo, film, or human perception cannot be altered, or is not fallible I will then take a serious look at their offerings, otherwise I wouldn’t want to spend an evening drinking beer and discussing physics with any of them. That is what I meant mostly by science, I meant PROOF. POOF IS SCIENCE, SCIENCE IS PROOF. Luis Gonzalez got me to thinking about people. People can make me aggravated and very mad. I have to deal with so many young incompetents (experts in their field) all the time. There’s no way my generation can escape this new mindless generation of --experts in their field- so long as we remain alive. Some can’t even write a simple instruction. Don’t ever take their word for anything. DON’T DO IT. This new generation of experts in their field! If he’s under forty-five make him demonstrate what he claims and prove it can be done as he says before you let him out of your sight, or you‘ll be sorry. You’ going to be disappointed 80% of the time and horribly mislead 20% of the time.
‘ But now Lebo I don’t mean you. I’m not talking about you, or anyone specifically actually. The site you gave has a one hour video of Ralph Ring that is interesting and pleasing to watch. I liked it. You did well.
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Lubomir - 12/09/2008 18:14:28
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| | Actually, flying saucers DO EXIST!
http://news.ufl.edu/2008/06/11/flying-saucer/
I don't know for WHO you work, but I think you are protecting this DAMN OIL economy and this OLD industry! You are just like this FALSE organization NASA and it's non far-sighted scientist with warped point of view, it's POINTLESS space program! You are no different than the Catholic church in the Middle age!
Even if GYROSCOPES can't produce antigravity, that doesn't mean that the technology is fake! Something is missing. Mercury fluid in it's plasma state, moving in circle, can warp spacetime!
I believe in flying saucers, because they exist, and they WILL eventually replace this primitive rocket and jet propulsion !
Have a nice day
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Glenn Hawkins - 12/09/2008 22:16:09
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Make them wear a rubber Lubo. And don’t let them penetrate your ears. You'll get space jisum in the brain. Oh, they’ve already done that? I’m sorry. I should have known.
Smile. You could be on candied camera, or you might win a lottery. I honestly wish you good luck in these and all your expectations.
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Glenn Hawkins - 12/09/2008 22:31:53
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Excuse me. I meant to add, BE CAREFUL FOOLING AROUND WITH MERCURY IN ANY STATE. I’m very serious. Be extremely careful with that stuff son. Otherwise I’ve been teasing you. Don’t take it to heart.
My Regards,
Glenn
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Lubomir - 12/09/2008 22:38:56
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| | I don't care what you think about me. But remember one - you are on the wrong side!
Have a nice day.
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Glenn Hawkins - 14/09/2008 14:52:35
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| | Dear Lubomir,
You say you don’t care what I think about you. I respond this way. Relative to the little I know about you, I think quite well of you. I will tell you why. You have searched these sites, made decisions and selected some information that you think is convincing and interesting and then sought to share your finds. That’s very good of you, Lubomir. As for the verifying of flying saucers that is driven entirely by opinion -- the eye of the beholder so to speak. Both Presidents, Ronal Regan and Jimmy Carter clamed by no uncertain terms to have seen one and Regan, while flying in Airforce One had his pilots chase a boggy that he watched. Of course there are many other respected people and hundreds of thousands, if not millions who clam to have observed them. There are so many unanswered question and some of the evidences selected has been put together for TV in such a convincing way as to force a person to wonder for a moment. Having said all that I myself remain almost entirely certain no flying saucers have visited the earth, particularly in modern times. Never the less I fully except that many people, no doubt some of them more intelligent and better trained than me believe in flying saucers. Therefore, your belief doesn’t lessen my regard for you.
I never the less find humor in some of the particular clams by poor, sad and troubled folks, who think they’ve been abducted. I sure I should be ashamed, but as you go through life you learn that all comedy is based on tragedy and that a fellow just has to have something to laugh at once in a while. I can’t think of many sources better than the recountings of flying saucer, freshly probed abductees. It’s really very sad isn’t it? Of course you do not clam to be one? Right…? Teasing you again. Just teasing. If you do that’s ok. Tell us about it.
With my kind regards,
Glenn Hawkins
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Lubomir - 14/09/2008 22:00:13
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| | Glenn,
I give you a list with names and links below them. Tell me what do you think:
Victor Schauberger and his Tornado vortex engine
http://evg-ars.narod.ru/shauberg1.htm
Dr. Richard Miethe
http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/Richard%20Miethe.htm
The Miethe-Belluzzo Project
http://www.thewebfairy.com/missilegate/rfz/chapter3b.htm
Rudolph Schriever
http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/Rudolf%20Schriever.htm
Avrocar
http://www.avrocar.com/avrocarstory.html
Silver bug
http://www.laesieworks.com/ifo/lib/AVRO-Silverbug.html
http://www.laesieworks.com/ifo/
Lightcraft(NASA)
http://www.space.com/images/h_in_lightcraft_big_03.jpg
Biefeld-Brown effect (Lifters)
http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/main.htm
And others....
And so, Glenn, I think you are familliar with the so called "Black Projects". What if all these various of projects have been developed in the past on secret level, and that NOW they are so advanced that can make us believe that extraterrestrials are visiting Earth when there are non. What if all Alien stuff is only a CIA invention to keep this secret projects away from the public? Because if you deny the existence of the Black Projects, you deny F-117 and B-2 Spirit, which are the First generation stealth planes. What if today a Second generation stealth exist that do have the ability to be invisible and capable to manipulate gravity? Think a little, Glenn.
And now WATCH this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDOOZ_IPb6Y
P.S. Even if the president of US hasn't seen them, that doesn't mean that they don't exist.
Have a nice day
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Glenn Hawkins - 14/09/2008 23:32:27
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| | You said, "P.S. Even if the president of US hasn't seen them, that doesn't mean that they don't exist." No! I wrote that two presidents actually clamed to have seen UFOs. Im not into your dream. I just tried to be nice in parting with the subject.
No! You do the stoping and thinking. Do you really think you could change the mind of someone like me? And, consider, did I try to change your mind? Why would I want to do that?
Have a nice day,
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Lubomir - 15/09/2008 05:43:12
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| | You are right, it's pointless. I'm just angry because of the fact that such a sceptic is running a wonderful web site like this....
Time will prove me right
farewell, Glenn
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Glenn Hawkins - 15/09/2008 14:02:30
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| | Dear Lubo,
Aw, don’t be mad my friend. Isaac Newton was darkly angry for a long time that ‘experts in his field’ disagreed and challenged him. His anger was pointless, yes? As we travel through life we learn that no matter what issue we embrace, any issue, anything at all-- many neighbors on this little planet will disagree. Should anyone be angry? Especially if courtesy has been extended should anyone be angry? No. Of course not. Disagreements are part of life and it proves that each of us has a unique mind of our own. What a great gift. right? All that we can control sometimes in our discourse is the courtesy we mean to extend to one another, plus a little humor when we’re lucky That’s good enough. Hope for that.
Don’t say farewell. Stick around. Post here as much as you like. Incidentally I’m not the host of this site. His name is Glenn Turner from England. I am Glenn Hawkins from Tennessee, USA who posts here sometimes just as you did.
Hang in there Libo, See you later,
Glenn H.
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egeyon - 20/09/2008 00:11:51
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| | Earthlings, kindness and blessing to you. My only demand of you is that you be kind to one another.
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Glenn Hawkins - 25/10/2008 15:56:56
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| | Luis,
I am all into something different, totally absorbed in another interest. These mechanics you are working on can really drain you. I should know. Life is mush better for me without them. Anyway, all my best wishes to you and I hope you are able to accomplish what you wish.
So Long, Glenn
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